Our answers to questions you might have asked.

Question:

Where does the name ebbe come from?

Answer:

The name ebbe is derived from the term “ebb” as used in the terms “ebb and flow” and “ebb tide”. It means to begin to recede. When a high water level is reached water immediately begins to recede.  ebbe is pronounced the same as the term “ebb” with a long “e” sound at the end.

          

Question:

What are ebbe Square Drains?

Answer:

ebbe Square Drains can be purchased either as complete drains (pictured above) or as just the replacement “riser” portion of a three piece shower drain.  Pictured below, an ebbeE4400 riser (right) is used to replace the round riser portion (below left) of a three piece shower drain.  This must be done while the drain fitting is accessible, before the mortar bed is installed.

 

Question:

What features of Ebbe Square Drains make them the best choice for ceramic tiled showers?

Answer:Here is our answer feature by feature.Square shape. It’s easier to cut tile to a square drain than to cut, nip and grind to fit a round one. Simple cuts are easily made, and waste little precious time.  ebbe  drains are sized to match standard ½”, 1”, 2”, and 4” tile without cutting. When cutting is needed, cuts are straight saw cuts. No grinding to match a radius. Consider the how much easier mosaics will be to install.

Composite Drain Grates. More than a flat piece of metal with holes E4400 series drain grates have a composite structure.  Each grate has a 11mm deep sectional frame molded from a GFABS that gives it the strength to support a 300lb load on center.  A highly formed 304 stainless clad surface gives the look of a substantial structure with clean rounded edges on all sides.

Minimal Grout Rim. Our wedge shaped integrated grout rim provides a rigid frame to grout to and nothing more. The job of the grout rim is to support the grout behind it and provide a perfect fit for the drain grate without being noticed. It gives the ebbe Square Drain its’ clean look and allows the grate to set into the grout like a tile without the appearance of a frame.

 

Grout Locking Perimeter Edges.One of the most distinct features of the ebbe drain body is its heavily undercut Grout Locking Edges.  These features insure that the ebbe drain is thoroughly attached to the surrounding mortar and structure.

 

 

PVD finishes. E4400 Series Square Drains are stocked in ten PVD finishes that compliment today’s plumbing. Homeowners, tired of flimsy looking round drains get excited about being offered quality drains to match their designer plumbing.

Did you know that much of today’s shower plumbing is easily upgraded? While valves within shower walls remain the same, the designer appearance and finish of showerheads and controls can be replaced and upgraded as needed. Finishes for ebbe Square Drains are also easily upgraded as trends change by simply changing out the drain grate.

No Screws Please! Screws are a bother to remove when you have to retrieve an earring or remove trapped hair. We could see the first time someone removed a screw with a warn out screwdriver, the finish would get damaged. Little screws can pop out of your fingers into the drain and get lost!  People would be calling us for replacements.  How would we replace all those designer screws in ten different finishes anyway? Each of our drains is provided with a simple “twist and tug” grate puller. Keep the puller in a drawer until it’s needed, then simply engage the puller into the grate and pull it straight out!

Question:

What is PVD? 

Answer:

PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) surfaces are the most desirable surfaces found on high end decorative plumbing products today.  They exhibit some very unique characteristics that out-perform older plumbing finishes.  PVD surfaces bond to stainless steel base metal with a molecular level bond.  This means that a PVD surface will never peel off and fail as chrome and other electroplated finishes are known to do.  PVD finishes all exhibit a metallic appearance and can range in color from chrome to blue and from gold to black.  Applied in a vacuum chamber unique finish colors can be created using proprietary recipes that incorporate the use of a variety of inert gasses, exotic metals, processing times and temperatures.  New colors are always being developed and old ones improved.  Colors produced by the PVD process are inherently stable.  Made of 100% metal plasmas, PVD surfaces are UV stable outdoors and will not oxidize in harsh indoor shower environments.

The PVD coating process is a green and environmentally clean process.  A dry vacuum chamber process, there are no issues with toxic chemicals and water contamination as there are with metal plating processes

Cleaning Suggestions

  • Do Not use cleaners containing ammonia, bleach or acid.
  • Use a mild detergent (such as dishwashing soap).  Do Not use abrasive cleaners.
  • Rinse and be sure to wipe the entire surface dry.

Question:

Why don’t plumbers install ebbe Square Drains when tiled showers are specified in new homes?

 

ebbe Square Drains is a new product line and is just now being introduced for the first time (fall/winter of 2006). They are presently marketed to the tile industry and have been welcomed immediately by tile contractors, homeowners, designers and who have seen them for the first time. An enormous task of educating the majority of General Contractors, Architects, Designers, and Tile Contractors about the benefits of using our drains is still ahead of us. Some old habits will need to change. We would like to see the day when ebbe Square Drains are always considered when tiled showers are planned. Much of this education will be done by word of mouth from tile contractors, dealers, and distributors who have worked with and appreciate our product. Soon word will spread and a growing demand for ebbe Square Drains will be created.

Question:

I have seen other square drains in plumbing catalogs for several years. I have never seen them used on a residential jobsite. Why? 

Answer:

Other square drains have been out there for years but are seldom specified for residential use. Plumbing distributors don’t stock them. They regard them as special order items. For one reason or another they have definitely not become commonly accepted by plumbers or made readily available by plumbing distributors. I suggest that their lack of acceptance in housing is due to a few shortcomings in design, price, limited finishes, quality, size, and marketing approach. The main reason however, is the fact that plumbing contractors have been making the decision about what drains to install in residential tiled showers for decades. They have had an interest in keeping their job simple and choices limited. Until now they have not shown an interest in installing drains specially suited for tiled showers. Most would rather stock and install one drain type that “will work” for every situation whether the final finish is to be tile, cultured marble, or another material. This means that the drains they install are the standard round variety. The only finish available is stainless. For the plumber, providing custom drains to compliment tiled showers could require a special visit to the jobsite for just that purpose. You must realize that plumbers plan to make only three visits to a residential jobsite. The first two visits are made early in the building process. First to do the below grade rough-in. During the second visit after which comes soon after framing, water lines and drains are installed. A final visit is made near the very end of construction to install sinks and faucets etc. At this stage all tile work, and counter tops are completed.

Question:

Do you believe that ebbe Square Drains will succeed where others have not, delivering a better drain product for tiled showers?

Answer:

Yes! We feel that there are three keys that a specialty drain for tiled showers must have to achieve wide market acceptance.

First, it must be properly designed to suit the needs of its primary markets, the home owner and the tile contractor. Square drains are the only shape that makes logical sense for tile. Tile contractors want them! They also must be drains that a tile contractor can install without crossing over the line that leads to assuming any liability for plumbing. I have to qualify that statement somewhat. In most areas of the country the tile contractor assumes responsibility for constructing adequate waterproofing, drainage and weep control within a tiled shower. His job, as it relates to shower construction has everything to do with water control and nothing to do with plumbing. These abilities fall within the accepted knowledge base and skill set of the tile contractor. Cutting and gluing pipe and fittings, building proper venting and drainage etc. is not! Tile contractors don’t do plumbing!

Second, drains must be made available with standardized interchangeable drain connections. This is because the upper and lower components of these types of drains need to be marketed separately. The lower portion that the plumber installs should be sold through distribution to plumbers. The drain head needs to be made available through a network of tile distributors and dealers to tile contractors rather than to plumbers.

Third, and finally the drain needs to be offered as a design decision to the home owner. Master bathrooms and kitchens are two areas of today’s homes where owners are eager to invest in upgrades. As witnessed by a growing selection of steam showers, body sprays, hand controls and multiple shower heads, showers are fast becoming the most upgraded and utilized area within a typical master bathroom. Sophisticated designer finishes are replacing chrome as the finish of choice and now comprise a majority of the market. The trend toward choices other than basic chrome is rapidly expanding. Shower drains must now be included in that offering.

A properly built tiled shower can easily last over 30 years. It doesn’t make sense to install a low quality floor drain here. A properly designed drain should be durable, attractive, upgradeable and maintainable. Ebbe Square Drains are!

Important!! Plumbers do not install this product!

If an ebbe Square Drain is to be installed into your new tiled shower, it will have to be the tile contractor that installs it.

Question:

ebbe square drains are designed to thread into the female threads of standard shower drain fittings. Do they fit all brands of drains or are there some exceptions?

 

Answer:

Yes, there are some exceptions. They don’t fit all drain fittings but they do match up with over 90% of the 3 piece shower drains sold today. All the major brands of ABS and PVC 3 piece shower drains on the market match up with ebbe square drains without the need for an adapter. These include Jones Stevens (Plumbest), Pasco, Plastic Oddities, IPS Water-tite, and Sioux Chief. Adaptors are available for a few other non standard brands.

Two piece cast iron drains with round stamped strainers are the most common shower drain used in California. Our E204 H- Mop adapter used with the ebbe E4400 Riser changes these drains into three piece ebbe Square Drains . See more information about this on the installation page.

Question:

How are ebbe Square Drains installed?

Answer:

The ebbe Square Drain installs before shower floor construction has begun.  It’s as easy as replacing a light bulb and takes less than a minute. The tile setter, homeowner, or general contractor, simply unscrews the round drain head from the shower drain fitting (installed by the plumber) and screws the ebbe Square Drain head in its place. The rest of the tile installation process is the same as usual.

Question:

Can ebbe Square Drains be installed in an existing shower? 

Answer:

It is possible for this to be done, but not without removing the entire tiled shower floor and mortar bed down to the waterproof liner.  Most tile setters would rather choose to replace the entire shower floor at that point.  Replacing the shower floor tile and mortar bed without damaging the waterproofing can be a risky proposition. A water test would then need to be performed to ensure that the old waterproof liner is free from leaks before reinstalling the shower floor with the new ebbe Square Drain Riser. You will only know if it has been successful after the demolition and leak test. After the demolition, hopefully the fitting beneath the tile is compatible with the ebbe Square Drain . You can email or call us and we will help you make that judgment call.

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